Pallet Pricing

Andrew_Gibson · February 9, 2023, 11:59pm

Continuing the discussion from Welcome to Pakira Pub!

Welcome to Pakira Pub! - #319 by Julius_Senkus

Hi Nadia,

thank you for warm welcome.
As normaly around 70% of our production is pallet boards we work with Europe and Asia, depending on market situation it’s between 70-30% either one or another market. In Europe for us it’s a bit hard as we are used to make premium grade, so only highest standard pallet producers buy from us.
US market is one we would like to start working in but at least at the moment few associates tells that pricing are pretty low. And also USD dropping to EUR is not helping my plans
Maybe some of you guys might give me some guidance here if I’m far far away with pricing. US standard pallet boards sizes delivered to east coast ports I could sell for ~380USD.
Also we can supply #2 & Btr

As for Russia war in Ukraine, certainly it didn’t help and I think everyone in the world maybe except US market was touched to some degree.
We used to import 10-30% of sawn production from Belarus, but after war started we stopped that and of course sanctions came to Russia and Belarus timber.
After war markets jumped in Europe because of uncertainty, but everything is on downward trend since maybe July/August. Now we are in a bit of strange situation with sawmills wanting to rise prices, yet buyers want to go lower so a good question who will prevail

Maybe some of you guys might give me some guidance here if I’m far far away with pricing. US standard pallet boards sizes delivered to east coast ports I could sell for ~380USD.

@Michael_Costanzo @Scott_Taylor @Fred_Vrugteveen @David_Stallcop @Nic_Wilson
What is the going rate for standard pallet boards out of an east coast port? Would standard euro pallets boards priced at $380 make it out of the port?

Julius_Senkus · February 10, 2023, 10:06am

Thanks Andrew for making new discussion on Pallet boards.
380usd would be my price landed to US east coast ports for 4840 pallet boards.
Softwood, KD+HT, highest pallet grade.
For Euro/Epal pallet boards price would be a bit less ~365USD.
Anyway I would be very interested to keep this discussion alive and maybe update my pricings monthly and of course if someone would like to discuss this in private feel free to contact me anytime.

Julius - +37067431151, sales@taurukedras.lt

Nic_Wilson · February 11, 2023, 3:44pm

I can’t even come close to $380…

My UTE&BTR Pallet Cut/Stock is coming out of the Midwest of the Great Lakes…Which is around $500+ delivered… (1x4x40 - 1x6x40 - 2x4x48)

$380 for Utility grade is dirt cheap. Considering Random Lengths Print is showing $315 FOB for Economy in Great Lakes and $395 Boston.

Unless you are talking about POE or Econ&BTR, I don’t know how people are making food-grade HT GMA pallets at that price.

David_Stallcop · February 13, 2023, 6:06pm

Currently the composite price as an average of all lengths for grade stamped KD S4S Euro 2x4 #2 Premium out of the US ports is US$340/m3 ($525/mbf). So, the US$380/m3 for Euro pallet boards won’t work today.

Andrew_Gibson · February 13, 2023, 7:38pm

Thank you @David_Stallcop for doing the m3 to mbf conversion. Very soon Pakira’s “Offers” and “Requests” will be going live and these conversions will be done automatically.

Julius_Senkus · March 21, 2023, 8:32am

hello guys,

I wanted to check for your update on US standard pallet sizes pricing? Or otherall various pallet sizes you might be used and could be discussed.

My current US standard pallet board sizes price to East coast ports would be around 320-330 USD/m3
Is this getting close to US prices or I’m still way out required pricing?

Thank you for your replies

Andrew_Gibson · March 23, 2023, 8:56pm

@Fred_Vrugteveen, @Scott_Taylor, @Michael_Costanzo Do you have any update for Mr. @Julius_Senkus?

@Nic_Wilson, @David_Stallcop??